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MONON Trains => Diesel Locomotives => Topic started by: Joe Land on March 11, 2012, 10:15:57 pm

Title: FM #18
Post by: Joe Land on March 11, 2012, 10:15:57 pm
FM #18 working at Shops.
Larry Boyd Collection
photographer/date unknown
Title: Re: FM #18
Post by: Pete Pedigo on March 11, 2012, 10:25:22 pm
Joe,

I find that car on the right more interesting than the #18.  It looks like a refer with a MOW number on it ?  I am I correct ?  It looks like
Pacific fruit Express or something has been painted over.

Pete
Title: Re: FM #18
Post by: Joe Land on March 11, 2012, 10:57:12 pm
80053 is listed as a Camp Car in MOW roster.
Title: Re: FM #18
Post by: Pete Pedigo on March 11, 2012, 11:49:52 pm
That is one way to get an insulated car for a winter work train.
Title: Re: FM #18
Post by: Steve Dolzall on March 12, 2012, 12:24:45 am
The photo had to have been taken between 1961 when the locomotive was repowered and 1963 when it was sold.
Title: Re: FM #18
Post by: Pete Pedigo on March 12, 2012, 12:47:46 am
Can you tell by the photo is has been repowered ?
Title: Re: FM #18
Post by: Steve Dolzall on March 12, 2012, 11:58:31 am
Yes, It has four exhaust stacks in a row above the engine compartment. If it were FM powered, it would have two crosswise exhaust stacks mounted  directely behind the  roof mounted radiator grill at the  front edge of the engine compartment.
Title: Re: FM #18
Post by: Pete Pedigo on March 12, 2012, 07:55:47 pm
Good observation !   Always nice to get an approximate date to go with a photo.
Title: Re: FM #18
Post by: Tim T Swan on March 12, 2012, 08:31:40 pm
80053 is listed as a Camp Car in MOW roster.
Joe:  you have a MofW roster?  Could you scan it and share it with us?
Title: Re: FM #18
Post by: Joe Land on March 13, 2012, 12:37:39 pm
Posted roster in MoW Equipment
Title: Re: FM #18
Post by: George Lortz on October 02, 2013, 05:49:26 pm
Here's another photo of #18 probably taken on the same day at Lafayette Yards.  This photo has a caption of Paul McGrane collection.

What is the building in the photo?

George L.
Title: Re: FM #18
Post by: Robert Gibson on October 02, 2013, 08:54:22 pm
18 is pulling the same Southern hopper car in both photos.
Title: Re: FM #18
Post by: George Lortz on October 02, 2013, 09:24:07 pm
Based on the fact that it's the same hopper, it could be that these photos were taken sequentially a few moments apart.  The train is obviously moving from right to left and the photographer seems to be in the same position for both shots.

George L.
Title: Re: FM #18
Post by: Robert Gibson on October 03, 2013, 07:08:13 am
I agree with George.
Title: Re: FM #18
Post by: George Lortz on March 17, 2016, 10:30:06 am
Monon H-10-44 #18 was sold to the W. R. Grace Company in 1963.  In the 30+ years of collecting former-Monon locomotive photos, I have only found two of #18 in W. R. Grace colors.  The locomotive was repainted and renumbered 102 by W. R. Grace and operated primarily in FL.  It was scrapped in 1968.

The caption for the first photo is "Mulberry, FL; 3/06/66".

I will send the second photo in the next post.

George L.

 
Title: Re: FM #18
Post by: George Lortz on March 17, 2016, 10:36:57 am
Here is the second photo of W. R. Grace #102.  I don't have a caption for this photo.  If anyone has other photos of this unit, it would be nice to see them.

George L.
Title: Re: FM #18
Post by: Mark Johnson on March 26, 2016, 03:38:08 pm
George:

Thanks for sharing...I never cease to be amazed at the photos that we see here. I have been looking for a shot of the former #18 painted for W.R. Grace for YEARS!

I presume, based on what I know of their primary business, that 18/102 was used to shuffle carloads of bulk fertilizer at either a production facility or a distribution point. Here's a good clue: A Google search for "Mulberry, Florida" turns up a reference to the Mulberry Phosphate Museum - http://www.mulberryphosphatemuseum.org/

For those who don't know the fertilizer business...rock phosphate occurs in large deposits in several places around the world, one of them being Florida. Unlike potash (potassium chloride), phosphate requires processing (treatment with acid, primarily) in order to render the mineral content available to plants. Raw phosphate rock is virtually insoluble and is of limited use in agriculture. The most common form today is "triple superphosphate" which is 46% available phosphate by weight - a fertilizer designation of 0-46-0.

No doubt our former Monon locomotive ended its life shifting many thousands of tons of the stuff. The phosphate business is strongly connected to rail transport - indeed, said Museum houses many of its exhibits in converted boxcars! I haven't contacted them - but there is a fair possibility that the museum's collection might turn up more pictures of the ex-Monon FM. The museum is located about 30 miles east of Tampa.

Mark J
Columbia MO
Proud Purdue Ag
Title: Re: FM #18
Post by: George Lortz on March 29, 2016, 10:22:19 am
Mark,

One thing that's interesting about W. R. Grace #102 (former-Monon #18) is that there were three successors with the same number!  I have seen photos of the third W. R. Grace #102, but not second.  They must have loved that number!

If you find any more photos of the first W. R. Grace #102, keep us posted.

Thanks for the interesting information about the company.

George L.