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Title: Indy experts, take note
Post by: David Longest on October 09, 2012, 05:34:30 pm
I am wondering where, in 1922, the "outskirts" of Indianapolis may have been.

December 31, 1922 Annual Report Chicago, Indianapolis and Louisville Railway Company

Station Buildings

A stone and brick passenger station was constructed in the outskirts of Indianapolis.

Thanks, David
Title: Re: Indy experts, take note
Post by: Robert Gibson on October 09, 2012, 11:26:29 pm
Probably the station on 38th Street.  Just a guess.
Title: Re: Indy experts, take note
Post by: David Longest on October 10, 2012, 07:10:52 am
I was wondering about the Boulevard depot.  I 1922 that may have been the outskirts.  I show that date
on my chart as correct for Boulevard (38th St.)  Sometimes the trees hide the forest. 

Thanks, David
Title: Re: Indy experts, take note
Post by: Heath Matthias on October 10, 2012, 08:28:30 am
funny to think of 38th street as the "outskirts" of Indianapolis, especially as late as 1922.
Title: Re: Indy experts, take note
Post by: Robert Gibson on October 10, 2012, 10:16:37 am
The State Fair Grounds were probably on the edge of Indy back then.
Title: Re: Indy experts, take note
Post by: Tom Kepshire on October 10, 2012, 01:19:21 pm
I do not have the Hilton Book handy, but I believe there is mention of the new station built on the northside. That would suggest that Blvd Station is the one.
Title: Re: Indy experts, take note
Post by: Rick Berg on October 10, 2012, 03:08:49 pm
There was another one North of the yard by the bridge on Mass. ave.
Title: Re: Indy experts, take note
Post by: George Lortz on October 10, 2012, 06:47:14 pm
Rick,

Is this a Monon Station?

George L.
Title: Re: Indy experts, take note
Post by: Rick Berg on October 10, 2012, 07:27:35 pm
This was talked about a long time ago, which is why I saved the pic. That is Mass Ave Bridge in the background. Supposibly this stationed service trolley or Interurban, PRR and Monon. I believe Bob Wheeler confirmed this in pre 1910 (that year is stuck in my head) timetable, need to ask him again I guess.
Title: Re: Indy experts, take note
Post by: Heath Matthias on October 11, 2012, 08:23:40 am
Does anybody have a timetable showing when that station was operated?  Never knew it existed...
Title: Re: Indy experts, take note
Post by: Robert Wheeler on October 11, 2012, 05:11:58 pm
I don't have data on passenger stops on every timetable summarized.

That being said I pulled two employee timetables at random and found the following for trains south of Frankfort:

On L.N.A.&C. TT# 22 October 20, 1895 four scheduled First Class Trains have stops (Code "s") Frankfort, Sheridan, Westfield and Massachusetts Avenue. Flag (Code "f") for some trains were at Westfield and Sheridan. A Second Class "Mixed Train" Nos 9 & 10 had either flag or scheduled stops at all stations south of Frankfort. They were Frankfort, Cyclone, Kirklin, Terhune, Sheridan, Horton, Westfield, Carmel, Nora, Broad Ripple, Fair Grounds, Massachusetts Avenue, Indianapolis. (and Cincinnati was also shown as the next station after Indianapolis).

Later on CI&L TT#47 (April 26, 1925) the first Class Stops were Frankfort, Sheridan, Fair Grounds only. Indianapolis was shown as Belt Junction, Mass. Avenue and Union Station. Cincinnati was no longer shown. The four Second and two Third Class Trains were freight only.
Title: Re: Indy experts, take note
Post by: Ken Weller on October 11, 2012, 09:16:32 pm
I have the picture of the Mass Ave station listed as 1907.  I'd like to see more photos of this station.  There are 2 more drawers in our Archives about Indianapolis that I have not investigated yet; perhaps there are drawings there about this station.
Title: Re: Indy experts, take note
Post by: David Longest on October 13, 2012, 06:46:48 pm
Any idea when the Mass. Ave. depot was demolished, Rick?  It looks like a formidable structure.  Was is a junction depot?
Title: Re: Indy experts, take note
Post by: Steve Dolzall on October 13, 2012, 07:12:08 pm
Bring up this site:

http://historicindianapolis.com/then-and-now-the-little-depot-and-the-interstate/ (http://historicindianapolis.com/then-and-now-the-little-depot-and-the-interstate/)
Title: Re: Indy experts, take note
Post by: Ron Marquardt on October 13, 2012, 07:31:35 pm
Good find Steve, that is one great article.  / Ron
Title: Re: Indy experts, take note
Post by: Tom Kepshire on October 13, 2012, 07:44:13 pm
Interesting reading Steve. Nice find.
Title: Re: Indy experts, take note
Post by: Jim Osborne on October 14, 2012, 07:07:20 pm
Wow, I drive right past that spot with some regularity (when coming into town on I-70, I'll exit at Keystone/Rural down to Massachusetts so I can parallel the railroad tracks for a while). I had no idea a station had been there, though it's firmly beneath the Interstate now. Great article.
Title: Re: Indy experts, take note
Post by: George Lortz on March 15, 2015, 11:12:36 am
I found this postcard image on eBay of what is referred to as the Indianapolis Union Depot.  Any ideas when or where this station stood?  By the looks of the "locomotive", this is pre-1900.

George L.
Title: Re: Indy experts, take note
Post by: Ryan Rybarczyk on March 15, 2015, 08:04:18 pm
Here you go George...

http://historicindianapolis.com/history-of-indianapolis-union-station-part-1/