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Monon Scale Modeling => Generic Modeling Discussion => Topic started by: Roger Nulton on October 24, 2012, 05:51:07 pm

Title: Monon Project Group
Post by: Roger Nulton on October 24, 2012, 05:51:07 pm
Is the Yahoo modeling group dead?  Where would I send a message to the guys in the group?
Thanks, Roger Nulton
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Rick Berg on October 24, 2012, 05:57:00 pm
Me, Chad or Tim Swan can forward one to them, but you must join the group on yahoo to send to that group.
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Steve Dolzall on October 24, 2012, 06:33:33 pm
I signed up and belonged to the Monon Project Group for a long time but I can't find any sign of it now.
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Rick Berg on October 24, 2012, 08:22:21 pm
Hmm, it is gone, don't know.
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Steve Dolzall on October 24, 2012, 09:15:13 pm
Well, Tim should be able to tell us.
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Chad Boas on October 25, 2012, 07:49:24 pm
I just Emailed Mike about it.
I'll let you know what he says.
Chad
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Roger Nulton on October 25, 2012, 07:56:58 pm
Thanks, Chad.  I have been a member of the group for years.  I miss you guys<g>!
Roger
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Gene Remaly on October 26, 2012, 06:10:35 am
Nice shot of a good looking scene !
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Chad Boas on October 26, 2012, 02:46:59 pm
Mike said he took it down when this board started up.
Chad
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Roger Nulton on October 26, 2012, 04:11:56 pm
So sorry to hear that, Chad.  Thank you. Now I don't know where to direct my dumb modeling questions!  The group was a great resource.  I often accessed the group files for information.

Gene, thanks for your comment on the photo.

Roger
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Steve Dolzall on October 26, 2012, 08:31:41 pm
Roger, I'm certain modeling questions are welcome on this site.
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Joe Land on October 26, 2012, 10:00:09 pm
Modeling questions are most certainly welcome.
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Steve Dolzall on October 26, 2012, 10:25:12 pm
Roger, Keep in mind that as a result of all the work Ron and Joe have done, there is no more complete source of Monon prototype photos than what is available here.
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Roger Nulton on October 27, 2012, 12:27:03 am
Steve,
My intention was not to diminish the efforts of Ron and Joe.  It's just that Mike A. had both model and prototype photos organized by specific project in the Monon Project Group site, and I planned to work on some of those projects using the group's collective experience and photos as guidance.

Guys, where on this Board would I best direct a modeling question, that is, which topic?  And Steve, you indicate there is a source for Monon prototype photos here.  Where would I find them?  I'm still learning how to navigate this Board.

Thanks,  Roger
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Steve Dolzall on October 27, 2012, 07:33:27 am
Roger,

The new MononBoard has a section set aside specifically for modeling su[not allowed]ects by scale. So questions or discussion items should be posted in those sections. Due to the relative youth of this new Monon discussion site there is not yet  an extensive "bank" of prototype or modeling photos. However, if you are looking for photo or other information about a specific Monon su[not allowed]ect, there is a good chance that someone on this list can probably help. Unfortunately, the information stored on the old IU Monon Lists has been lost and apparently the Monon Project archives are also no longer available. Having said that, this new Monon Board has the potential of serving us better than any of the previous lists did. We just need to give it the opportunity.
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Rick Berg on October 27, 2012, 11:32:24 am
I know that between the MONON Modelers the yahoo archive pictures are on our pc's. I can make another Modeling thread with those archive items if all.... the ex members will post them.
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Roger Nulton on October 27, 2012, 02:00:36 pm
Thanks for the reply, Steve.  Your book has served as my main source for modeling since I selected the Monon as my prototype back in the '80's, and was a major influence in my making that selection.  In fact, I have worn the first copy out and had to buy a second!

Roger
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Roger Nulton on October 27, 2012, 05:44:03 pm
Rick,

A section with the topic "General Monon Modeling" or some such label might prove helpful.  I model in scale S.  If I were to post in "S Gauge", the closest section to me, I doubt if anyone would read it!  That's why I posted my original question in the HO scale section, assuming it has the largest following of guys from the Monon Project Group.

It would be great if the old Yahoo Monon Project Group's archives were again accessable, but that may be too much work.  The files that I can recall that I miss the most are the one on work cars and the one on the rider caboose, but I guess I still have plenty of other projects to keep me busy for years to come!

Thanks,  Roger
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Steve Dolzall on October 27, 2012, 07:21:48 pm
Roger,

If you browse the su[not allowed]ect headings there are specific sections for various types of locomotives, rolling stock, operations,  and structures. If your questions are basically prototype in nature that might be the most productive area to pose your question. You really can't go wrong since if a question/su[not allowed]ect ends up in the wrong slot, one of the "wise and powerful" list moderators will shuffle it off to the correct location. I personally enjoyed the discussions on the Monon Project list but, for reasons I don't fully understand, the some of the Monon modelers seem not to have embraced the new list as you would expect. Hopefully over time they will appear.
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Roger Nulton on October 27, 2012, 09:00:22 pm
Thanks for the suggestions, Steve.  Maybe it would be easier for the silent modelers to participate if Rick's suggestion were implemented.  The way it is now, we are all segregated into the various scales, and there seems to be no obvious place to have a general discussion about modeling that would be helpful across all the scales.  Scale specific issues or product announcements could remain in the existing catagories.  Just an idea.
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Rick Berg on October 27, 2012, 09:55:05 pm
I think you should have categories, pictures, drawings, articles, comments, etc.
In the pictures, drawings, articles, it should be post only, no comments or comments only for articles, etc, like you had in the yahoo group.......... So you have a modeling reference library like before....... I can't remember everything that was in the File area of yahoo.........

But we do not want a category that is already covered in other threads on the Monon Board; ie ROW, buildings etc..... But do want maybe Modeled Structures thread, you get the idea.

Some of this is already i the Members Area of the MRH-TS area that you had, so maybe Pete will need to "OK" some of the content......

Just let me know....
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Roger Nulton on October 28, 2012, 12:17:25 am
You've lost me here, Rick.  Way over my head.  I don't even know the vocabulary.  I'm just a guy that likes to build things and share ideas and inspiration with other modelers.  I was hoping that there would be some acceptable format for doing that.  Maybe just another catagory under the "Monon Scale Modeling" heading.
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Pete Pedigo on October 28, 2012, 07:56:16 am
Rick and Roger,

I have no issues with a adminstrator making more key holed categories withi the modeling area of the  Monon Board.

Just remember to click on "notify" at the end of a  particular post so you will get email notification of a new post in a category.   

Pete
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Chad Boas on October 28, 2012, 03:34:11 pm
Roger,
Mike said he saved alot of the info from the yahoo site. He said you can e mail him about it at mononinmonon at yahoo.com
Chad
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Roger Nulton on October 28, 2012, 04:21:22 pm
Thanks very much, Chad.  I've been meaning to write to Mike directly, but wasted my morning watching our Seahawks lose to the Detroit Lions.

What do you think about having a non scale specific category here under "Monon Scale Modeling"?  That way, modeling questions, ideas and inspiration could be shared among all the scales?

BTW, a couple of my S scale buddies met you at Naperville and were impressed by your modeling.  Are you still planning on doing something in S?
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Chad Boas on October 28, 2012, 07:42:52 pm
I did a Seaboard F6 50' flat in S. I might do the Southern 52' flat also.
A multi scale catagory should be good.
Chad
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Roger Nulton on October 29, 2012, 01:46:13 am
That's great, Chad.  Should we call the category "Modeling Projects" or "Models Under Construction"?  Does anyone have an opinion?  Is there anyone else on this Board who was a member of the old Monon Project Group that could help out with the title?

Chad, I'll get with you directly about the S scale stuff later.
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Jim Osborne on October 29, 2012, 06:22:26 am
How about naming the category "Monon Projects?"
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Tom Kepshire on October 29, 2012, 10:30:30 am
Good move, pun intended.
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Roger Nulton on October 29, 2012, 02:51:55 pm
Jim,
That works for me.  Or "Monon Modeling Projects".  Some title for the category that will identify building stuff that will be useful to all scale modelers rather than buying stuff in a specific scale.  Are there any other ideas out there?  I don't know how to do a message to include modelers from scales other than HO.

Tom, Thanks for the support (I think?).
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Ron Marquardt on October 29, 2012, 04:30:57 pm
Roger and all, the section name is already "Monon Scale Modeling", and I see no need to have a sub-section with the same name.  We have sub-sections for every scale imaginable, and the new Generic Modeling Discussion sub-section should fit your needs perfectly.

The definition of generic is "relating to or characteristic of a whole group or class", and that should cover everything that is not specific to one scale.  / Ron
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Roger Nulton on October 29, 2012, 05:43:00 pm
OOPs!  I didn't notice that it was already a done deal (ie: the sub-section name).  Sorry to take up so much space.  I'm beginning to learn how things are done here.
Thanks for clarifying, Ron
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Ron Marquardt on October 29, 2012, 07:11:10 pm
No problem Roger.  I am the great clarifier.  Just remember that I'm wrong at least 50% of the tiime (maybe 55% some days).  / Ron
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Gene Remaly on October 30, 2012, 07:33:14 am
Roger

I believe the correct horn for F and Bl2 is Wabco E2

Bell sounds are optional. Depends on whether they are grease coated,cracked, etc.  Also, the little air powered  ringer thingie could be dirty and slow acting..

HAPPY HONKING
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Roger Nulton on October 30, 2012, 02:43:58 pm
Gene,

Thank you very much for the info.  I have been using the A2, I'll switch to the E2.  My locos are relatively new (1948-49) so the bells are probably in pretty good shape.  I have to turn down the volume though, or they drive me nuts!

The DCC sound install in my RS-2 #24 is my 10th.  I have 10 more to do if I live that long <g>.  The next one I am working on is RS-2 #27. These S scale RS-2's are "Alco Models" imports from the early 1980's.  I have to replace the entire driveline in them as the pot metal gear towers are swelled, distorted and crumbling!  The hardest part though, is cramming all the wires in without interfering with the drive.
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Tim T Swan on October 30, 2012, 03:48:00 pm
Oh Roger!  I love your modeling!

One of these years (if I live that long!) the wife and I are going to take a long autumn RV trip down the PCH from Vancouver to Baja.  We'll be sure to stop by in Tacoma for a visit!   /Tim.
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Roger Nulton on October 30, 2012, 06:35:08 pm
Tim,  Thanks so much!  I look forward to a visit from you and your wife.  Last month, we had quite a few Hoosiers in our basement when we were on tour for the Seattle 2012 National Narrow Gauge Convention.  It's fun when they tell the local visitors: "Yes, the Fall trees in the Midwest really are that bright!"

I'm glad that you found the new topic/category.  You are an excellent modeler as well as Monon historian.  I hope that other ex-Monon Project Group members will find it as well.
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Gene Remaly on October 31, 2012, 06:37:01 am
Roger

I sent a rteply to which hoen sound is correct for F's and BL-2.  I don't know where iot went, so , here it is again

Wabco  E2

Bell sounds are optional--- dirty and grease-oil caked, cracked, or the little ringer dingy thingie is dirty or worn out.  whar ever sounds good to you
Title: Re: Monon Project Group
Post by: Roger Nulton on October 31, 2012, 12:06:51 pm
Hi Gene,

Yes I got it.  See my reply #34 above.  I programmed the E2 on my RS-2 #24.  I must say it's a unique sound (to me).

Thanks again for the help.