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Tom Kepshire

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40' Monon Boxcars
« on: November 28, 2012, 03:23:46 pm »
Okay HO scale modelers. Does anyone know what road numbers for the 40' Boxcar, carrying CIL markings and "The Hoosier Line" as the image below. I was asked by a manufacturer who may be doing the 40' in numbers that have never been done. Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: 40' Monon Boxcars
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2012, 08:11:14 pm »
The box cars numbered 1-500 would have had that paint scheme.  This is #288 in 1969 at Shops with the CIL replaced with MON. 

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Re: 40' Monon Boxcars
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2012, 08:12:38 pm »
A rerun of car #1 would be cool.

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Re: 40' Monon Boxcars
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2012, 08:34:31 pm »
Tom, this scheme first appeared in 1947 as original paint on 500 new boxcars delivered by Pullman-Standard in 1947.  These were famously numbered 1 thorugh 500.  See attached.  They were all welded cars with fairly unsual "rolling pin" ribs on their ends.  Some had ribbed doors, some had paneled doors, but all were 6 feet wide.

Shortly after, some of the similar, older cars purchased in 1942 also were painted with this scheme.  These cars were riveted and all numbered 9-thousand something.  It was a short-lived paint scheme.

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Re: 40' Monon Boxcars
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2012, 10:00:27 am »
Here's a shot of #129.

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Re: 40' Monon Boxcars
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2012, 10:55:16 pm »
Tom is wanting to know what numbers have been produced in HO scale in this scheme. So that different numbers can be used on this "new" run. Right Tom?

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Re: 40' Monon Boxcars
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2012, 11:11:27 pm »
The only one I'm aware of was #1 on an Athearn box car about 30 years ago.  I think it was sold by an NMRA club in Indiana.  I bought 4 of them and renumbered 3 of them.

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Re: 40' Monon Boxcars
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2012, 12:00:08 am »
I'll chime in w a few more pics of boxcars in this scheme ("The Hoosier Line").  See attached.
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Re: 40' Monon Boxcars
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2012, 09:23:10 am »
Thanks for all the pictures of the boxcars. What I was attempting to ascertain was which road numbers have already been run over the years by hobby manufacturers. I have been in contact with someone interested in doing some, and wanted to know which numbers had previously been done.
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Re: 40' Monon Boxcars
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2012, 09:47:31 am »
Tom,
I have a #1 made by Athern and #42 made by C&BT
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Re: 40' Monon Boxcars
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2012, 09:09:18 am »
I also have the #1 and #42.  They both have rivets.  I believe the PS-1 were unriveted.  Intermountain has done the right PS-1's for the society.  My shelves are full of inaccurate models of the Monon. I probably wouldn't purchace anything in the future that isn't right on, even if it's just for me. I do have several custom pieces,  I've purchased over the years in this paint sceme. I was never a rivet counter, but I'm much more careful with my dollars today. I believe I have one of  every kit the society has offered.  This web-site has been great.  Tks, Ron S.

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« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2012, 04:23:51 pm »
The MONON's first batch of PS1's were acquired in 1949.  They were delivered with the Loewy "wheel-on-rail" heralds, not the script THL.  The 1-500 series acquired from PS in 1947 were welded, but were NOT PS1's.  The 1-500 series is best represented in HO scale by the C&BT Shops model.  To my knowledge, no MONON PS1's ever carried the script "The Hoosier Line".  The scheme had already fallen out of favor by 1949.

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Re: 40' Monon Boxcars
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2012, 05:02:59 pm »
Just to muddy the waters:

I seem to remember that there were several low numbered (single digit) CIL box car kits released in HO scale in the late 40's/early 50's. I think they were the Athern Metal side cars as opposed to Varney paper sides.  These kits were state-of-the art at that time.

A paperboy's income was not enough to issue an equipment trust to acquire any in HO at that time.
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Re: 40' Monon Boxcars
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2012, 06:38:30 am »
Bob, apparently thats what I have on the layout. I bought them complete so don't know if they came as kits or  RTR. I do have some 50' cars  unfinished in a bag.  I assume you are right, they are Athern.