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Misc Monon steam-Hammond Times newspaper archives
« on: June 07, 2013, 10:56:03 pm »
My Dad found a new site with lots of Hammond Indiana related photos and therefore includes a lot of railroad related photos.
Here are a couple of them from this site: The quality is marginal, but the su[not allowed]ect matter and the fact I've never seen most of them make them worth posting anyway.
It's a Facebook site but you can see all the photos without an account.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.268009133540.143770.267975613540&type=3

First we have a view of South Hammond yard looking north at 173rd Street that I had seen in a newspaper clipping before, but it had been cropped so the icehouse was missing. It was also pixelated from the newspaper printing on the copy I saw before. It was included with an article on US41 being detoured and a car being hit by the Monon injuring a young girl. Note the sheer size of the icehouse in front of the locomotive. Hard to believe there aren't more photos of it around.

Second is a 2-8-0 that I can't make out the number, crossing Fayette Street downtown in the 1930's northbound.

Third we have an engine either shoving north or pulling south in a photo taken from the top of the Indiana Hotel. With no caboose in front of the engine I imagine he's pulling South, but that's a guess. You can see the roof of Hohman Avenue Tower, the Erie has been freshly ballasted, the MC/IHB is still 4 tracks and the siding off the Nickel Plate to the far right still goes all the way back to Paxton Lumber. (According to the Sanborn Map I've seen.)

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Re: Misc Monon steam-Hammond Times newspaper archives
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2013, 09:16:01 pm »
Great photos, Eric!  Thanks to you and your dad for sharing them with us.  First proof I've ever seen of the until now seemingly mythical ice house at South Hammond!

That's a Class H5 2-8-0 crossing Fayette St.  So the loco number has to be either 270, 271, or 272.  They were all scrapped by WW2.

Your third photo though, didn't come through.  Registers zero mb on my system.  Sounds like a good one, though.  Can you trying sending it again?  Sounds like this one was taken from about the same place building as the photo I just posted earlier this evening.  Your caption mentioning Indiana Hotel reminds me of the building's name.

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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2013, 03:34:37 pm »
Tim,

Here's the third photo again. Not sure why that one didn't come through... maybe I exceeded the MB limit.
It's not terribly clear but it is a unique perspective.

I've included another one I really like: A 1960's shot inside the crossing gate tower at Fayette street.  Note the pneumatic controls for the gates. Tim, I know you know where this was but for those of you not as familiar with the north end: The Monon is the line above his shoulder. There's an Erie Alco just entering the grade crossing, headed north toward downtown, leaving their yard that was adjacent to the joint Monon/Erie station. Hard to believe these crossing towers and shanties (and ancient pneumatic gates), for the most part, remained in use into the early 1980's. 

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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2013, 05:55:09 pm »
Yeah, Eric.  It IS a great photo.  Could be the thirties though.

I, too love that shot inside the Fayette St. tower!  I spent some time in my youth up in the 173rd St. crossing tower at South Hammond watching in fascination as the operator there raised and lower the gates there while an NW2 shunted cars across the street, clanging his bell and fiddling with all those valves and other gadgets.  His skill and especially his ability to anticipate amazed me!

Here's a view showing that Fayette St. tower's exterior, c1954.  The larger shed on the other side of the MONON main is the old downtown MONON frieight station, the car parked next to it belonging to Bob Schultz, who at that time was commuting from there to and from his job at the Dearborn freighthouse.  In the distance, partly masked by the smaller shed, you can see the limestone station, no long before it's razing, no doubt.

Mention of the bell, above, brings back my most memorable recollection of all this downtown rail traffic.  Each watchman's tower plus many of the ground shanties, I believe, was equipped with a big brass bell, probably salvaged from a scrapped steam locomotive.  The watchman would ring it, usually just once, to provide early warning to motorists and pedestrians that the gates were coming down (or, in the case of a ground shanty, that he was about to step out into the street with his stop sign or lantern).  His bell also signalled the watchmen further down the line that a train was coming.  Each bell had a distinctly different tone and pitch so wherever you might be in downtown Hammond an approaching train would be announced with a "Bing!  Bong! Clang! Clong! with all those beels being rung successively.  The street-level watchmen also carried whistles, so we would often hear those as well, and then the loud crashing of steel wheels hitting all those diamonds in Hohman Ave.  It was a great time and place for a young railfan to send some time!

The second photo is a c1950 shot taken from the top of the Indiana Hotel, looking southeast.  The MONON main is the right-most track.  Next left are the Erie/C&O tracks and in the upper left can be seen the Nickel Plate tracks turning eastward.  The location of the stone depot on Sibley St. is masked by the dark brick building on the other side of State St.  Hohman Ave. is the street with the bus on it.  For those unfamiliar with Hammond, State St. was the main downtown east-west drag, while Hohman was its north-south counterpart.

I found this photo last night via the old-Hammond Facebook link forwarded by Eric.  I've found a few others of MONON interest as well.  So, more to follow.

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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2013, 01:43:05 am »
Just noticed my photo of the Fayette St. watchman's tower didn't come through, either.  I'll try it again.

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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2024, 02:41:51 pm »
Upon further review, I believe the photo of the 2-8-0 crossing Fayette St. is a Class H-4. One of the locomotives numbered 260-265. Canted cylinders for inner valve gear, rather than Walshaert's valve gear, and a lone single-phase Westinghouse air pump differentiate it from the Class H-5's, numbered 270-272 that had two single-phase air pumps.
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