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George Lortz

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Bedford Belt Railroad Trestle
« on: March 02, 2013, 12:39:05 pm »
This story and photo appeared recently on eBay as an entry from an unnamed person (eBay user uniondepothotel).  Thought you might be interested.  I had to edit the photo to cover some "overlay" information.

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This is an extremely rare original 11 x 12 7/8” wide black and white cabinet photograph of what is the Bedford Belt Railway large wooden trestle that was located right near Bedford, Indiana.  This is a trestle that not many photographs were made of due to its semi-remote area when it was built and in operation.

The photograph was taken by A. G. Bergen, who was a photographer located in Martinsville, Indiana.  In this photograph, the wooden trestle appears to have all of the truss support work completed and all that was left was the laying of the upper deck, ties, and tracks.  There are also ten (10) men on the bridge (with two on the lower level under the group of men on the top).  There is also fresh Bedford stone that is used on the hillside, a rope going from the bridge over to a tree, and the photo looks to have been taken in the fall or winter, as there are just a few dried up leaves still on the trees.  In this photo, you can clearly see the embankment rise from the gully below up to the track height, as well as, a partially obscured view of the other side.

The bridge itself was 70 feet high and 800 feet long.  Sometime after the Bedford Belt came under the control of the CTH&SE, it appears that the Baltimore & Ohio gained control of it until it was abandoned circa, 1924.

Historically, the Bedford Belt Railroad began operations circa, 1890’s for operations in and around the Bedford, Indiana area.  However circa, 1897, Midwest businessman and railroad magnet, John H. Walsh, acquired the Bedford Belt Railroad to basically connect his Southern Indiana Railroad (which was the original Evansville & Richmond Railroad) from Bedford to the company’s nearby stone quarries near what was to become the town of Oolitic.  Walsh also needed the line not only to connect to the three quarries and ten mills, but as a needed economical way to get around the much higher rates that the Chicago Indianapolis & Louisville (Monon Route) was charging him.

It is not known if this was the trestle involved, but, “In April of 1896, tragedy struck on a trestle on the Bedford Belt line when it gave way taking the lives of many railroad train crews as a fast moving train was on it carrying several railroad men on the moving equipment.  Five men were instantly killed and two others so badly hurt that they will die before night, in a bridge accident, half a mile from Bedford Junction, on the Belt Railroad, on which stone from the Bedford Junction quarry is transferred from one road to another.  At nine o'clock this morning the train broke through the trestle.”

”The train consisted of an engine and two gravel cars and was running at a high rate of speed at the time of the accident.  While passing over what is known as the Standard trestle, the last span from the direction of Bedford collapsed.  The locomotive was at that time beyond the trestle, and had it not been pulled from the track by the weight of the cars behind it, the men on the engine would have escaped.  As it was the two cars went down with the trestle in a ditch 75 feet deep, and the engine pulled backward in spite of the momentum of the train, rolled over and plunged down an embankment 75 feet high.  All the men who were on the train were employees of the road and were engaged in ballasting the track. The breaking of the trestle will block the road for several days.”

In 1905, the financial strain of over budgeting and two much expenditure by the Walsh Empire started to show.  By 1908 all of the railroads that were owned by Walsh went bankrupt and their operations were transferred to a trustee in 1908.  Walsh subsequently was sentenced to prison for wrongdoing.  In two years from then, the three roads that were owned and operated by Walsh; the Chicago Southern, the Southern Indiana, and the Bedford Belt, were taken over by the Chicago Terre Haute & Southwestern Railroad.  The CTH&SE later became under the control of the Chicago Milwaukee St. Paul & Pacific – Milwaukee Road.


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Re: Bedford Belt Railroad Trestle
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2013, 01:08:15 pm »
George,
I have pictures of the Standard Trestle.  I will match this up and see if this in fact the Standard Trestle.
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Re: Bedford Belt Railroad Trestle
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2013, 04:59:52 pm »
George,

I think they are mistaken.  The picture below is of the Standard Trestle.  The Standard Trestle was on the belt between what is now Old St.Rd. 37 and the GM foundry in Bedford.  My picture shows a trestle with more piers or bents with less lateral bracing and the cross braces (X's) do not match the ebay photo.   Also, the ebay photo is not the trestle near Oolitic/Reed over the B&B, not even close to matching that one.

Is this still a listing on ebay ? 

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Re: Bedford Belt Railroad Trestle
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2013, 06:22:15 pm »
Pete,

I just checked and the eBay listing is gone.  They did not say that the trestle in the photo was the Standard Trestle, but simply wondered if it was.  Thanks for providing the answer.

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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2013, 07:16:51 pm »
George,

The trestle in my picture would be the second one at that location.  The first one that collapsed was a very flimsy looking structure.  There is a picture of that structure after the section collapsed on page 15 in Ron Bell's, "The Rise and Fall of the Southern Indiana Railroad and it' founder John R. Walsh". See picture attached.  This was just west of where the Belt crossed the Monon main near the modern day GM foundry.


The good news is that I believe the photo you posted originally is a Belt Photo, and very, very rare in fact.   More on that when I get a chance to get supporting information at hand.

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Re: Bedford Belt Railroad Trestle
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2013, 09:36:53 pm »
Pete,

I found the above-mentioned eBay auction in the "Completed" category.  Here is the URL:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bedford-Belt-Railroad-1890s-Cabinet-Photograph-of-Indiana-High-Wooden-Trestle-/360605811507?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53f5c80333

Check out the asking price!  Don't know whether he got that price or not.

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Re: Bedford Belt Railroad Trestle
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2013, 03:02:39 pm »
Just to clarify, that Bedford Belt "crossing" over the MONON mainline was NOT at grade via a diamond.  It was also via a wood trestle, albeit a much lower one than this "standard" trestle, so low in fact that the MONON installed telltales to warn any topside personnel of its low clearance.  I have photos, but am now in NC and won't be back home until mid-April.

A couple of years ago on the old Listserve I posted a photo out off the Milwaukee Road Historical Assn's magazine of a taller Bedford Belt trestle over the B&B when it was still dual-gauge.  Pete, is this the the one at or near Reed's Station?

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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2013, 03:31:11 pm »
Tim,

Yes, the attached picture is at Reed's Station that you posted and is the trestle the girls are sitting on.

There was at least one at grade crossing between the Belt and the Monon (B&B).  It was south of Reed Station even further towards Salt Creek where a quarry spur of the Belt crossed the B & B enroute to Dark Hollow.  Both Railroads served Dark Hollow prior to 1907, but the Belt lost the fight and pulled their track up.

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Re: Bedford Belt Railroad Trestle
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2013, 09:52:31 pm »
This is getting interesting.  Does any drawing exist of the Bedford area showing the Bedford Belt Railroad and all its crossings and trestle locations?

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Re: Bedford Belt Railroad Trestle
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2013, 10:29:31 pm »
Following Pete's reply above about the collapse of the Bedford Belt trestle as reported on page 15 of Ron Bell's book, here's some of the text as reported April 17, 1896: "An awful catastrophe, probably the most fatal to human life that ever occurred in this vicinity, took place on the Bedford Belt Railroad at 9 o'clock Monday forenoon.  The big three-deck trestle on the main line of the Belt near the Standard quarry is several hundred feet in length, and 68 feet in height at the highest point, for about three bents. It is constructed of pine timber. There is considerable grade on the trestle, a pulling on the rails which had given a very perceptible lean toward the east to the upright timbers of the top tier of bents.  About a month ago orders were given the train men to run slow over the Standard trestle during repairs, and a party of bridge men were put to work on it since which time they have been engaged in bringing the structure into proper shape.  Monday a.m. the bridge men, five in number, were thus engaged, when an extra consisting of engine No. 30 and a flat car, on construction duty, came up from the quarries and started slowly over the trestle. When about two thirds of the way across there was a sudden settling, a gigantic crash and the great black 60 ton locomotive had fallen through to earth, over 60 feet below, wrecking four bents in its descent."

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Re: Bedford Belt Railroad Trestle
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2013, 10:52:37 pm »
Which paper was this reported in Stew?  / Ron

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Re: Bedford Belt Railroad Trestle
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2013, 11:04:15 pm »
George, I have that Milwaukee Railroader issue I mentioned earlier has several maps and aerial photos.  But it's at home and I won't be back there 'til April.

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Re: Bedford Belt Railroad Trestle
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2013, 11:04:50 pm »
Ron,
Quoted from page v, "The articles for this works came from the Bedford Mail."
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Re: Bedford Belt Railroad Trestle
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2013, 08:21:15 am »
Tim,

Hope you're enjoying your NC stay.  Raleigh is my home town.

When you get back, see if you can post some of the diagrams and drawings.  I'll check to see if I can find a copy of that issue of the Milwaukee Railroader.

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Re: Bedford Belt Railroad Trestle
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2013, 08:42:02 am »
I have found my proof of the location of the smaller trestle that George Lortz originally posted that started this thread.   There were at least two such trestles on a branch off of the belt just south of Oolitic that entere Dark Hollow for a short number of years.  The track was removed  prior to 1907.

In Georges posted photo graded rip rap limestone can be seen on the slope nearest the camera man for erosion control.   This would indicate at least a fear of erosion.  I remembered seeing such a location a few years ago on a 5 mile hike in and out of Dark Hollow on the Belt right of way into Dark Hollow.   My son and I took this hike again a couple of weeks ago to verify the location.  See the two attached pictures.   This confirms the claim by the ebay seller that it was on the Bedford Belt line, just not on the "Belt" after 1907.  It is a very rare picture indeed.

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